Rev. 1 Jan. 2009, Gen. 583







James Grave (1) was born about 1816 in England.  He married Elizabeth ‑‑‑‑‑‑, perhaps about 1833.  She was born about 1816 in England.  They were in the 1841 census for Egham, Surrey, England, with his occupation as cow keeper.  Neither James nor Elizabeth were born in Surrey, but everyone else in the household was.  Living with them in 1841 was Elizabeth Graves, 50, possibly his mother, Sarah Gill, 60, and Catharine Gill, 5.  None of the family could be found in the 1851 census.

Children – Grave

  2.  James Grave, b.c. 1834.

+3.  John Grave, b.c. 1836, m. Sarah Gates, 14 April 1859.

  4.  Pauline Grave, b.c. 1839.

  5.  Richard Grave, b. 1841.






John Grave (3) was born about 1837 in Egham, Surrey.  He married Sarah Gates, daughter of James Gates, on 14 April 1859 in St. Nicholas Church, Brighton, Sussex.  She was born about 1831 in Ninfield, Sussex.  According to their marriage certificate, John was living in the parish and Sarah was living at the Richmond Hotel at the time of their marriae; John was 25 and Sarah was 27; the witnesses were Benjamin and Maria Gates; and John’s father was James Graves, a farmer, and Sarah’s father was James Gates, also a farmer.  They were in the 1861, 1871 and 1881 censuses for Hove, Brighton, Sussex, with all their children born in Hove.  He was a chimney sweep, and apparently also a tobacconist in 1871.  It appears that Sarah had a child before they were married, since the 1861 census listed Frederick Gates, 5, son-in-law (probably meaning stepson), born Bexhill, Sussex, living with them.  In the later census records, Frederick’s name was listed as Frederick Grave.

Children – Grave

+6.   Frederick Grave (adopted), b.c. 1856, m. Maria Coomber, 1 April 1877.

+7.   John Grave, b. 1861, m. Rachel Hannah Franklin, 5 Aug. 1883.

  8.   Jane Grave, b.c. 1864.

  9.   Edith K. Grave, b.c. 1866.

  10.  Mary Grave, b.c. 1868.

  11.  Sarah Grave, b.c. 1868.

  12.  Catherine Grave, b.c. 1870.

  13.  Albert Grave, b.c. 1872.






Frederick Grave (6) was born about 1856 in Bexhill, East Sussex.  He married Maria Coomber on 1 April 1877 in St. Peter, Brighton, East Sussex.  Her parents were Thomas Coomber, born 1809 in Brighton, East Sussex, and Sophie Gatland, born 1810 in Eastbourne, East Sussex.  Maria was born about 1853 in Brighton, and was christened 9 Jan. 1853 in St. Nicholas, Brighton, East Sussex.  They were in the 1881, 1891 and 1901 censuses for 2 Spring St., Brighton, Sussex.  He was a chimney sweep.  All their children were born in Brighton, Sussex.

Children – Grave

  14.  John Grave, b.c. Sept. 1879.

  15.  Sarah Grave, b.c. 1883.

  16.  Thomas Grave, b.c. 1884.

  17.  Albert Grave, b.c. 1886.

  18.  Edith Grave, b.c. 1888.

  19.  George Grave, b.c. 1889.

  20.  Jane Grave, b.c. 1891.

  21.  Annie Grave, b.c. 1893.

  22.  Mary Grave, b.c. 1895.


John Grave (7) was born 1861 in Hove, Sussex.  He married Rachel Hannah Franklin on 5 Aug. 1883 in Brighton, Sussex.  She was born about 1861 in Swerford, Oxfordshire, and died before 1901.  They were in the 1891 census for Hove, Brighton, Sussex.  He was a chimney sweep.  Both their children were born in Hove, Brighton, Sussex.  In the 1901 census for Brighton, John, widower, and daughter Ethel were living with his brother Frederick, and Gertrude could not be found (perhaps she had married).  (R‑1)

Children – Grave

  23.  Gertrude Mary Grave, b.c. 1885.

  24.  Ethel Mary Grave, b. 11 Nov. 1888, m. Herbert Jupp, 2 March 1913.


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