GRAVES FAMILY BULLETIN
A
Free, Occasional, Online Summary of Items of Interest to Descendants of all
Families of Graves, Greaves, Grieves, Grave, and other spelling variations
Worldwide
Vol.
10, No. 3, Feb. 25, 2008
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CONTENTS:
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General Comments
** New
Genealogy and Greaves/Graves Ancestry in England
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Mitochondrial DNA Testing Supports Connection
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DNA Test Results With No Matches
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Changes to the GFA Website
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Photos from Reunion in Williamsburg, VA in June 2007
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New Websites for Identifying People in Family Pictures
** Revolutionary
War Pension Application Project of William T. Graves of Charlotte, NC
**
The Wayback Machine
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To Submit Material to this Bulletin & Other Things
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GENERAL
COMMENTS
This
is being sent from Bradenton, Florida, where Sarah and I are enjoying a month
of warm weather, away from the snow and cold of New England. It contains some of the new developments in
our Graves/Greaves research project, plus other items of possible
interest. Your help and suggestions
continue to be appreciated.
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NEW
GENEALOGY AND GREAVES/GRAVES ANCESTRY IN ENGLAND
Genealogy
972 for John Greaves and Jane Bottomley of Oldham, Lancashire, England has been
recently compiled and added to the GFA website. Many of their descendants emigrated to Ontario, Canada, and some
settled in the U.S. This part of the
family is undoubtedly related to other families already on the website, and
research as well as DNA testing is very much needed to find the connections.
A
new section of possibly-related genealogies for Greaves Families of Lancashire,
England has now been added to the Charts page of the GFA website. These include genealogies 81, 273, 318, 388,
398, 454, 611, 659, 773, 894, 913, 943, and 972. Only gen. 81 has a descendant who has been DNA tested, and
research and testing is very much needed.
When
I looked at census records for Lancashire, especially for 1841 and 1851, I
found that there were many Greaves families living in Oldham, Royton, Ashton
under Lyne, and elsewhere in the immediate vicinity. Someone needs to catalogue all the Greaves families in the area,
search baptismal and other records, and try to determine how they are related.
In
addition to the families in Oldham and vicinity, the same process needs to be
done for many other areas of England. I
would very much like to hear from volunteers who might be interested in
pursuing this. This is an essential
part of our efforts to find how the various families are related to each other
and to find the specific connections of families in the U.S. and elsewhere to
families in England.
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MITOCHONDRIAL
DNA TESTING SUPPORTS CONNECTION
Application
to Genealogy 169:
Iris
Horne of Waxahachie, TX recently told me about how she used mitochondrial DNA
testing to confirm her descent from Thomas Graves (born by 1724, lived in
Orange Co., VA, descended from Capt. Thomas Graves of VA, genealogy 169) and
Elizabeth ‑‑‑‑‑‑. From census records, Iris found that she was apparently descended
from their daughter Elizabeth Graves (b. 1752) who married Zachariah Sims. She worked with Amanda Dicken of
Russellville, AR, who is descended from Frances Graves (b. 1760) who married
John Wait, another daughter of Thomas and Elizabeth Graves. They found descendants of both sisters
through all-female lines and got mtDNA tests for both. The test results matched exactly, proving
that they share a common ancestor, and giving strong support to the belief that
the common ancestor was Elizabeth, the mother of the two sisters.
You
can see the DNA test results on the Mitochondrial DNA Test Results page of the
GFA website. On that page (and also in
the Capt. Thomas Graves of VA summary section of the Charts page) are links to
the female lineage charts. These
results are on the chart for John5 (descended from Capt. Thomas
Graves via John2, Thomas3, John4).
One
of the other many uses for this approach would be to confirm the daughters of
this Thomas and Elizabeth Graves who were not named in his will. This would be Henrietta Graves, b.c. 1769,
m. Mr. Hudson, and Mary Graves, b.c. 1770, m. Mr. Haynes.
Another
application might be to determine whether Elizabeth who married Thomas Graves
could have been a daughter of Thomas Sims.
If a known daughter of Thomas Sims could be found and a descendant of an
all-female line could be found and tested, then that test result could be
compared to this one. If they did not
match, then the suggestion that Elizabeth was a daughter of Thomas Sims would
be disproved.
Application to other families, Genealogy 116:
There
are undoubtedly many, many other situations where testing mtDNA for two
descendants of direct female lines where the ancestors were suspected to be
sisters could be helpful. I have just been
looking at another for Barb Mikesell who believes her ancestor, Emily Graves,
b.c. 1832 in Ohio and married Charles Dunlap, was the oldest daughter of Isaac
Graves and Mary Ann Courtney. Isaac was
descended from John Graves of Frederick Co., VA, genealogy 116. If a direct-female-line descendant of one of
the other 8 daughters of Isaac and Mary Ann could be found and tested, and that
result could be compared to the test result on a direct-female-line descendant of
Emily Graves, that could disprove or support the other evidence that has been
found.
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DNA
TEST RESULTS WITH NO MATCHES
There
are a number of Y-DNA test results for Graves/Greaves descendants that do not
yet have any matches. The possible
reasons for this include: (1) name change, (2) adoption, (3) illegitimacy, (4)
not enough family members yet tested, (5) other. For most of these non-matching test results, only one descendant
has been tested, so there is no way to know whether the tested individual is
truly representative of his family or not.
In these cases, at least one more descendant should be tested,
preferably someone who is not closely related.
The
genealogies that have presently been tested and have no matches are the
following (arranged by haplogroup):
Haplogroup E
68
– Graves Family of Yorkshire & Mickleton Manor Gloucestershire, England
366
– Joseph Graves and Elizabeth Brazier of TN
789
– Enos Graves of Coleridge Twp., Randolph Co., NC
Haplogroup I
59
– Thadeus Graves and Mathilda Beeman of NY & IA
133
– Joseph Graves and Rachel Pratt of Framingham, MA
185
– John William Graves and Sarah May ------ of Leeds, Yorkshire, England
208
– Bela Curtis Graves and Dorothy Wallace of VT, NY, OH & IL
316
– Thomas Greaves and Martha ------ of Holmfirth, Yorkshire, England
592
– Edward Greaves and Mary ------ of Nottingham, England
624
– George Robert Graves and Mary Frances Kennedy of TN & TX
745
– Jacob Grieve of Stannington, Northumberland, England
785
– Thomas Graves of Dublin, Ireland
916
– John Graves and Annie ------ of Canada & IL
919
– Leon Graves and Rosella ------ of Quebec, Canada, & Worcester Co., MA
938
– John Greaves and Ann ------ of Tanfield, Durham, England
Haplogroup Q
768
– George F. Greaves and Caroline Matilda Bandy of Yorkshire, England &
Wichita, KS
Haplogroup R1a
904
(known illegitimacy) – John Grave and Mary ------ of Crosthwaite, Cumberland,
England
Haplogroup R1b1
32
-- Campbell Graves of VA & Giles Co., TN
60
– John Graves of Bassingham, Lincolnshire, England
69
– William B. Graves and Elizabeth ------ of NC & IN
81
– John Greaves and Anne Jackson of Horsehedgefold, near Oldham, Lancashire,
England
165
– William Graves of Dover, NH
228
(1 matches, 1 doesn’t) – Greaves Family of Beeley, Derbyshire, England
886
(1 matches, 1 doesn’t) – Thomas Greaves of Kirkby Overblow or Spofforth, North
Yorkshire, England
934
– Robert Greaves and Sarah ------ of Alfreton, Derbyshire & Calverton,
Nottinghamshire, England
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CHANGES
TO THE GFA WEBSITE
Website page for Current
News of family members
By
clicking on the History/News tab at the top of any page of the GFA website, and
then clicking on the Current News tab, you will see current news stories about
family members. Recent stories include
rodeo champions Stockton Graves of Oklahoma and Lee Graves of Canada, Cheryl
Graves and family involved in musical theater in Delaware, the passing of
Robert Graves who introduced bingo to Cumbria, England, the family of
businessman James W. Graves of Clay Co., AR, basketball players Kyle Graves in
British Columbia, and the 3 Graves brothers of Butler University in Indiana,
and the election of John H. H. Graves as president of the board of directors of
Luray Caverns Corp. New stories are
added frequently. I always appreciate
information about news I have missed.
Help in finding out the family connections of the family members in
these stories will also be appreciated.
Other,
more significant changes to the website are being worked on.
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PHOTOS
FROM REUNION IN WILLIAMSBURG, VA IN JUNE 2007
Many
people at the reunion in Williamsburg, VA took photos and videos, and many of
them offered to share with others. At
least one attendee, Beth Reedy, descended from Capt. Thomas Graves of VA
uploaded her photos to the smugmug.com website. You can access them at http://believesinfairies.smugmug.com/gallery/2976382#163997597
If
any of the others who attended have photos or videos online that they would
like to share, let me know.
For
those of you who aren’t familiar with SmugMug, it is worth looking at.
To store your pictures and videos on their website, you pay an annual fee of
$40/year for a Standard account, $60/year for a Power User account, and
$150/year for a Professional account.
In return you get unlimited storage for as long as you belong, ability
to store and view in high resolution at large size, no ads, private group
sharing, and many other features not available on free sites.
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NEW WEBSITES FOR IDENTIFYING PEOPLE IN FAMILY PICTURES
Lost and Found Photos
The
Jan. 21 issue of Eastman’s Online Genealogy Newsletter has an interesting
article on a new website, currently in the testing phase. The name of the website, started by Photo
Grafix, is "Lost and Found Photos."
Quoting from the company's announcement: “Many customers have asked us
if we could identify photographs they inherited from relatives or rescued from
the garbage dump. We have also met
skilled and generous people who have helped others confirm locations, dates,
and sometimes names of people in those kinds of photographs. The goal of Lost
and Found Photos is to facilitate such connections.”
This
is a free service. Registration is only required for posting photos. For more information, go to http://www.lostandfoundphotos.net.
Automated Photo
Matching/Identification
At www.myheritage.com you can upload a
picture of yourself or a relative and find which celebrity you resemble, create
a morph of the celebrity and you, or find which parent a child resembles
more. They write: “MyHeritage.com is
one of the world's first services to apply advanced face recognition technology
to personal photos and family history; and it's free.”
According
to a review at http://family2point0.wordpress.com/2006/06/02/my-heritage-family-and-genealogy/:
“MyHeritage.com automatically learns from every new face it is taught, so after a few examples it will recognize all your family and friends. It can be set to auto-tag faces recognized in high probability.
Associating faces with family trees is great fun. After doing so your family and children can click any face in any photo to see all photos of that person, or the family tree of that person, or their own family relationship with that person.”
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REVOLUTIONARY
WAR PENSION APPLICATION PROJECT OF WILLIAM
T. GRAVES OF CHARLOTTE, NC
William T. (“Will”) Graves of
Charlotte, VA (descended from genealogy 169 via Thomas Graves who married Ann
Davenport) is involved with a Revolutionary War pension application project. For more information, see http://www.southerncampaign.org/pen/. He would like to ask everyone interested to
participate by submitting their transcriptions of applications filed by veterans
of the Southern Campaign. Listing on
the site is free. The goal is to create
a fully searchable database containing the pension applications of all the
veterans (or their widows) who either fought in some phase of the Southern
Campaign or who lived in one of the southern States (which are defined as GA,
SC, NC or VA) when called to serve in the War.
Will Graves also published a
book in 2002 titled James Williams: An American
Patriot in the Carolina Backcountry.
“James Williams (1740-1780) was the highest-ranking patriot officer to
die from wounds suffered during the American Revolutionary War battle fought at
King’s Mountain, South Carolina.” The
book points out the overlooked importance of the battles in the south and the
role of Williams as one of America’s many heroes in its fight for independence
from Great Britain. This is a
print-on-demand book available from Amazon or essentially any bookstore. However, he has been working on a new,
expanded edition for several years, so is not pushing the existing version.
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THE WAYBACK MACHINE
I am constantly trying to
figure out how the GFA website can be made better and more helpful. As part of that process, I wanted to see
some of the information that had been on the website several years ago, but I
no longer had those pages. Then I
remembered about the Wayback Machine.
This is a website from Internet Archives at http://www.archive.org that many of you may
find helpful and interesting for many purposes. They not only archive web pages, but also music, video, text,
etc. For the Graves Family Association
website, their historical “snapshots” start on Dec. 5, 1998 and go through the
present (with about a 6 month delay).
On their site, you can browse
through 85 billion web pages archived from 1996 to a few months ago. To start
surfing the Wayback, type in the web address of a site or page where you would
like to start, and press enter. Then select from the archived dates available.
The resulting pages point to other archived pages at as close a date as
possible. Keyword searching is not currently supported, but may be in the
future.
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ABOUT THIS BULLETIN:
This
bulletin is written and edited by Kenneth V. Graves,
ken.graves@gravesfa.org. Ken Graves was
also editor of the Graves Family Newsletter (no longer published). This bulletin will contain announcements and
news of special interest to Graves descendants with Internet access. It will not contain queries, genealogies,
photos, and the kind of in-depth articles that used to appear in the Graves
Family Newsletter.
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