GRAVES FAMILY
BULLETIN
Vol. 15, No. 11,
Oct. 14, 2013
A
Free, Occasional, Online Summary of Items of Interest to Descendants of all
Families of Graves, Greaves, Grieves, Grave, and other spelling variations
Worldwide
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CONTENTS
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General Comments
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Easier GEDCOM Upload to FTDNA and Special DNA Test Offer
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FTDNA Updates Family Finder and Adds Triangulation
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Special Offer from Ancestry.com for AncestryDNA & Upgrade to Ethnicity
Results
** Future Direction of 23andMe
** Good Summary of DNA Testing
** Progress With Managing Graves/Greaves DNA Study
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Graves Mountain Lodge in Syria, VA
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Finding Ancestors in GFA Website Genealogies
** Carnegie Heroes Named Graves
** Descendants of Capt. Thomas Graves of Virginia
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To Submit Material to this Bulletin & Other Things
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GENERAL COMMENTS
As
usual, there are several articles about DNA testing in this issue. There are also my usual pleas for you
(and your relatives) to get tested for Y-DNA and autosomal DNA, and to upload
your autosomal DNA test results to GEDmatch.com.
The
article about the Graves/Greaves DNA study discusses the great need for help
with this activity, and is a beginning on how this might be done.
I
am also trying to include more of the genealogical searching I do with various
genealogies, and some of the genealogical puzzles that still need to be solved
(such as with the family of Capt. Thomas Graves of VA).
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EASIER GEDCOM
UPLOAD TO FTDNA AND SPECIAL DNA TEST OFFER
Family
Tree DNA recently provided an easier way to upload a GEDCOM. Once you create one, go to your
personal FTDNA page and click on the icon that says “$10 coupon for your Family
Tree.” Follow the instructions,
and your coupon will appear in your email. The coupon has no expiration date, and can be used for any
test over $40, even new ones. You
can either use the coupon for yourself or you can share it with anyone you want
to have tested. For example, you
or someone of your choosing can get a Family Finder test for $89 instead of the
standard $99 by applying the coupon.
One reason for this offer is to encourage people to upload the GEDCOM,
and a second reason is obviously to increase sales of DNA tests.
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FAMILY TREE
DNA UPDATES FAMILY FINDER AND ADDS TRIANGULATION
FTDNA
ANNOUNCEMENT
Family Tree DNA just announced that they have launched a redesign of several of their Family Finder pages.
“Some customers have reported difficulty with getting the new pages to display or function properly. In most cases, this is due to using an old web browser version that we don't support.
At this time, our browser version requirements are:
These requirements are also listed in a FAQ on our website:
If you are currently using an unsupported browser version, please upgrade to the latest version of your web browser.
If your computer doesn't support the latest version of your web browser, please try a different web browser. For example, if you're using IE8 and you're unable to upgrade to IE9 or IE10, please try Chrome or Firefox instead. All of these web browsers are free and are widely used on the Internet.
Keeping your computer up-to-date with the latest version of your web browser is always a best practice -- not just for the Family Tree DNA website, but for everything you do on the Internet. New browser versions often provide enhanced security, bug fixes, improved functionality and new web technologies.”
NEW FEATURES
FOR FAMILY FINDER
The
autosomal DNA test from FTDNA is called Family Finder. The personal pages for Family Finder
for FTDNA customer have been upgraded and new capability added. Debbie Parker Wayne has written a blog
article about how to use the new features, and Rebecca Canada is writing a
4-part series of articles about this: part
1, part
2, part 3. Roberta Estes discusses how the new
features can help us on her DNAeXplained
blog. Using the Chromosome
Browser in conjunction with the new Triangulate feature makes it easier to
determine which DNA segments come from which lines, and which specific ancestor
matching people have in common.
WHAT IS TRIANGULATION?
Triangulation
in genetic genealogy has generally meant the use of the DNA test results of two
individuals to determine the DNA of a third individual, a common ancestor. More recently, using the DNA of three
living people to approximate the DNA of their common ancestors has also been
called triangulation. This was
first used with Y-DNA test results, but is also being used for autosomal DNA
test results. Actually, with
autosomal DNA, the more descendants who are tested, the more completely the DNA
of an ancestor can be inferred; in that case, even though the concept is the
same, calling it triangulation might not be quite correct.
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SPECIAL OFFER
FROM ANCESTRY.COM FOR ANCESTRYDNA & UPGRADE TO ETHNICITY RESULTS
All
the DNA testing companies seem to be jockeying for market share and our
business with special prices and new features. Ancestry is no exception. It is now offering “exclusive limited time savings” of $79
for their AncestryDNA
autosomal DNA test. Note that this
offer is only available in the U.S., and a shipping charge of $9.95 (or $24.95
for expedited shipping) is added.
In a separate announcement on Oct. 2, Ancestry announced an upgrade to
its ethnicity results, which have been poor compared to their competitors. They announced: “You may
have heard, we are close to launching a new evolution to the AncestryDNA
ethnicity results. Here’s some more information on a few of the new and
exciting things AncestryDNA members will see in the coming weeks. And, you
won’t even need to take the test again! This is one of the many benefits of
AncestryDNA; as new findings are discovered, we give you updates along the way.
Here are a few highlights of what’s to come.
· New
Ethnicity Results – you will see a more refined ethnicity estimate
that incorporates years of research and one of the most comprehensive and
diverse collections of DNA from around the world.
· More
details. You may see some new ethnicities you didn’t have before and
more refined regions than ever before. The newly evolved AncestryDNA will
provide you with estimates for each region and show all the populations and
regions we tested you for.
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New look, enhanced experience. The map,
estimates and details of your personalized ethnicity will have a brand new look
and feel. We’ve integrated feedback from our members to make the experience of
your DNA results even better.”
ETHNICITY RESULTS FROM VARIOUS
COMPANIES
Roberta
Estes just wrote a blog
article comparing ethnicity results from the various DNA testing
companies. It is worth
reading. She explains why they
differ from each other, and provides some background material.
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FUTURE DIRECTION OF 23ANDME
MANY MORE
CUSTOMERS
An
article in BloombergBusinessweek (Sept. 27, 2013) is titled “23andMe Wants
to Take Its DNA Tests Mass-Market.”
Its main objective now is to increase its customer base to a much larger
size. A private-sector partnership
to be announced soon is one step toward making that happen.
RESEARCH AND
SPECIAL INTEREST COMMUNITIES
The
expectation is that with a big enough database of genetic profiles, the company
could look for disease patterns and areas of research that aren’t possible
now. Although genealogical
interests will continue, health and medical applications are obviously the
company’s major direction.
ONLINE HUMAN
GENETICS COURSE
23andMe
has just launched a massive open online course (MOOC) titled “Tales from the
Genome” with Udacity. See more
about it on the
23andMe blog and on Udacity’s
website. For those of you who
may be interested, you can also see information about Udacity’s other online
courses on their website. They
state: “Udacity is the future of online higher education. We offer accessible,
affordable, engaging classes that anyone can take, anytime.”
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GOOD SUMMARY
OF DNA TESTING
Roberta
Estes in her DNAeXplained blog has written a good summary of the various types
of DNA testing. You can see it here. She reviews what DNA is, how it can
help you in genealogy research, the various kinds of tests and who can take
them, and what the results look like.
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PROGRESS WITH
MANAGING GRAVES/GREAVES DNA STUDY
In
the March 11 issue of this bulletin I wrote an article about needing help with
managing our Graves/Greaves DNA project.
I was very pleased to receive several responses from people offering to
help. My problem then was that
those responding wanted to know exactly how they could help, and I wasn’t sure
what to tell them. If you were one
of those who volunteered to help or if you didn’t but would like to, contact me
again. (If you don’t, I will try
to find my records of all who offered, and will contact you.)
There
is still time (one more day) to register for the 9th Annual
International Conference on Genetic Genealogy, Nov. 9-10, in Houston, TX, if
that is of interest to you.
Registration for that closes Oct. 15.
In
addition to the DNA test results and analyses on the Graves Family Association
website (which are not as up-to-date as they should be), I have now activated
the capabilities on the Family Tree DNA website (which need some adjusting and
organizing). To see what is
presently there, go to the FTDNA website,
enter Graves in the box for “Search Your Last Name” and hit return, click on
Graves under Projects heading, and click on the link under the Project Website
heading. Then, to see the results
of our studies, click on the desired link from the drop-down menus at the top
of the page. You will see that
Y-DNA test results and mtDNA results are all displayed, but not autosomal DNA
(Family Finder, etc.) results. An
advantage of the tables on the FTDNA site is that all test results are there,
whereas many recent results are missing from the Y-DNA tables and charts on the
GFA website. Autosomal DNA test
results will continue to be displayed only on the GFA website.
Some
of the near-term help needed is:
·
For all those who have taken any test, be sure we have the test-takers
in a database and know what their Graves/Greaves ancestry is.
·
Be sure everyone tested has been contacted. In the future, contact people as they order their first test
or when they first receive results.
·
For the Y-DNA master table on the FTDNA site, be sure all test results
are in the proper group, group the results that are presently ungrouped, and
review and correct any incorrectly grouped results.
·
For the Y-DNA table, be sure the column for Paternal Ancestor Name is
correct and includes the genealogy number.
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For mitochondrial DNA results, try to help trace and record the female
ancestral lines, and try to find a better way to display and use the results.
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For autosomal DNA results, help maintain a master database of all test
results and matches for results from all testing companies.
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For autosomal DNA, help provide results for the various charts, and
find better ways to find matching DNA segments, and improve reporting and
charting.
Finally,
I have also added a link to the General Fund for those who would like to
sponsor DNA tests for others on FTDNA.
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GRAVES MOUNTAIN LODGE IN SYRIA, VA
Graves
Mountain Lodge in Syria, VA, was recently featured on TV station WSLS10. You can see an article on their
website. The 1700-acre
property owned by Jim and Rachel Graves is a popular tourist destination, especially
during the spring music festival and the fall apple harvest festival. Several generations of the Graves
family have lived in their present house since the mid-1800s. The family is descended from 1608
Jamestown immigrant Capt. Thomas Graves (genealogy 169) via John Graves and
Elizabeth Eddins, through their son Paschal Graves, born 1796 in Madison Co.,
VA.
More
information about the 44th Annual Apple Harvest in October, and
general information about Graves Mountain Lodge can be seen on their
website.
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FINDING
ANCESTORS IN GFA WEBSITE GENEALOGIES
Although
I have addressed this issue in the past, some people still have difficulty
finding their ancestors or other people in the genealogies on the Graves Family
Association website. There are
several ways to do this:
(1) Search the alphabetical and
numerical indexes of all genealogies on the website by clicking on the link for
the desired genealogy from the Research drop-down menu. This will only show you the name of the
earliest known ancestor for each genealogy.
(2) Click on the “Click here to
search website” tab at the top left of each page (just below the “History/News”
tab), and then enter whatever you are searching for in the top box. This is a standard Google search that
will search for anything on the GFA website. It is usually best to search for the least common name. For instance, searching for Ann
Davenport will be more effective than searching for her husband Thomas Graves,
since there are many men named Thomas Graves on the website.
(3) Do the same as #2, but click
on the bottom button for “Click to Search Genealogies.” This allows a search by name of
descendant, date associated with that descendant, name of spouse, or any
combination of these. Note that
the search will be for exactly what is entered, so that if you enter Thomas
Graves, Thomas L. Graves won’t be found.
However, you can enter Thomas in the descendant field and Susan in the
spouse field, and it will find all men named Thomas married to anyone named
Susan.
(4) Search online with a general
Google-type search, or search on Ancestry.com (or similar site) to find more
information about whoever you are looking for (such as earlier ancestor or more
complete name), and then use that information to search again on the GFA
website.
(5) Ask me. This is the approach I prefer the
least, but it is often very effective.
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CARNEGIE HEROES NAMED GRAVES
Mike
Ransom recently called this to my attention. Andrew Carnegie, industrialist and philanthropist,
established a trust fund in 1904 in New York, administered by the Carnegie Hero Fund Commission,
to honor and reward “heroes of civilization”, “men or women who are injured or
who lose their lives while attempting to preserve their fellows”. Three people named Graves have received
that award.
Clifford
V. Graves, 50, farmer, saved Merritt L. Brown, 42, farmer, from an enraged
bull, Versailles, Kentucky, March 7, 1907. Graves attacked the animal with a
pocketknife while it was butting and trampling Brown on the ground. He was knocked
down himself and sustained a fractured rib and bruises all over the body before
the bull was chased away by Graves's dog.
Clifford was a son of Richard Cave Graves and Helen
Dillon, descended from genealogy 169 (Capt. Thomas Graves of VA).
William
H. Graves, Jr., 16, student, saved Robert I. Graves, 40, clerk, from drowning,
Annisquam (Cambridge), Massachusetts, July 25, 1918. Robert fell from a dory
into the Annisquam River 340 feet from the bank, where the water was 20 feet
deep. He could not swim and did not rise immediately. William jumped from the
dory toward Robert, and they came to the surface together. Robert grasped
William with one arm around his neck, causing both to sink again. They arose,
and Robert took hold of William at his collar. William then swam with Robert
240 feet to wadable water. Robert then released his hold, waded a short
distance, and fell forward in the water. Others assisted him to the bank.
William was exhausted and floated to shallow water and was taken to the bank.
William was a son of William H. Graves, Sr. and
Caroline May Elliott, descended from genealogy 214, and probably before that
from either genealogy 166 (John Graves of Concord, MA) or genealogy 168 (Thomas
Graves of Hartford, CT). Help is
needed to establish the ancestry of genealogy 214. See an article in the next GF Bulletin for more discussion
of this family.
Samuel
M. Graves, Sr., died after attempting to save a child from burning, Brighton,
Alabama, January 5, 1985. Graves, 60, maintenance engineer, was visiting a
neighborhood in which a mobile home caught fire. After assisting its occupants
to flee, Graves entered the trailer to search for a child who was reported
missing. He emerged moments later, his clothing aflame. Graves suffered
third-degree burns to 82 percent of his body and died 27 days later.
According to the SSDI, Samuel lived in Fairfield,
Jefferson Co., AL (only 5 miles from Brighton), was born 6 March 1923, Social
Security Number issued in Michigan, and he died in Feb. 1985. According to the U.S. Dept. of
Veteran’s Affairs BIRLS Death File, he died 1 Feb. 1985, enlisted in the Army 6
Aug. 1941, was released 13 Nov. 1945, re-enlisted 6 March 1947, and was
released 31 May 1950. In the 1940
census is a Samuel Graves, b.c. 1922 in AR, black, son of Ollie Graves, living
in Detroit, MI, who could be this person.
However, I can’t find him in the 1930 census. Can anyone help?
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DESCENDANTS OF
CAPT. THOMAS GRAVES OF VIRGINIA
Back
in the 20th century, most people believed that almost all the Graves
families in or from Virginia were descended from Capt. Thomas Graves who
arrived in Jamestown in 1608. Then
along came Y-DNA testing of male descendants in about the year 2000, which
showed that there were actually many Graves families from Virginia, and that
only one of the 3 men (John, Thomas, and Francis) believed to be sons of Capt.
Thomas Graves was his son. I was
recently asked which one that was.
My answer was to look at the genealogy 169 chart on the
GFA website. You will see on that
chart sons John and Thomas. We have tested the Y-DNA of many male Graves
descendants of Ralph Graves (b. 1653), a grandson of son John, and they all
match the families of genealogies 168 and 65, which we believe to be from
Hertfordshire, England. The line from Capt. Thomas Graves to Ralph Graves (b.
1653) is very well documented and is the most solid line from Capt. Thomas
Graves. We don't know why there are no known male lines of descent from
generations 2 or 3, or from any brothers of Ralph, but that is the way it is.
The line from son Thomas doesn't have any known
and tested male lines of descent until we get to son Thomas's g-grandson John
(b. 1706). We don't know why, and that does seem a little strange. Also, the
descent from son Thomas doesn't have quite as strong documentary proof as that
from son John. Anyway, from that John (b. 1706), we have tested many lines.
They all match each other fairly well but do not match any known Graves
ancestor. One possibility is that son Thomas really was a brother of son John,
being a son of Katherine Croshaw but not of Thomas Graves. After all, we
believe that Capt. Thomas Graves did not bring his wife and children to the
Virginia colony until long after he first arrived in the colony, so there was
much loneliness and opportunity for extra-marital activity.
In any case, it looks almost certain that John
was a son of Capt. Thomas Graves, but neither Thomas nor Francis was. The Jamestowne Society is presently only
accepting proven descendants of son John (through his grandson Ralph) as
descendants of Capt. Thomas Graves.
You can see more discussion and analysis on the GFA website Charts page.
The line of Francis Graves (genealogy 220) has
been conclusively proven by many Y-DNA tests to not be descended from Capt.
Thomas Graves, but rather from the Greaves family of Derbyshire. We do not presently know his parents or
his exact line of descent.
On the GFA website there is a page that summarizes the
various research projects for some of the Graves/Greaves families. The description of the project for
Capt. Thomas Graves is here. Since genealogy 169 has been shown to
share Graves ancestry with genealogies 65 and 168 (New England families from
the Hertfordshire area of England), the research project for that family
should be of interest also. There
is a brief intriguing account written by Gov. Winthrop of the Massachusetts Bay
Colony about a Thomas Graves who went to Virginia that could account for the
connection between these families.
Regarding descendants of the daughters of Capt.
Thomas Graves, there is no known evidence to indicate that they were not his
daughters. Since females don’t
inherit Y-DNA, we will need to use mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) and autosomal DNA
(atDNA) to eventually substantiate their lines.
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