GRAVES FAMILY
BULLETIN
Vol. 16, No. 4, April 22, 2014
A Free, Occasional, Online
Summary of Items of Interest to Descendants of all Families of Graves, Greaves,
Grieves, Grave, and other spelling variations Worldwide
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CONTENTS
** General Comments
** Announcement and Sale from
Family Tree DNA
** Finding Ancestry of People
in the U.K. From Current News Articles
** What to Do If You DonÕt
Receive This Bulletin
** Using GEDmatch for
Autosomal DNA Test Results
** Your Test Results on
23andMe
** Mickey Rooney Was
Descended From Genealogy 270
** A Genetic Census of
America from Ancestry.com
** Some Statistics About
Genealogies On The GFA Website
** Preservation Plans for
Graves Mill Property in Virginia
** Another Interesting
Building and Graves Family in Montana
** To Submit Material to this
Bulletin & Other Things
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GENERAL
COMMENTS
I hope you enjoy and are
helped by the variety of articles in this issue of the Bulletin. We have another sale from Family Tree
DNA, especially for the Y-DNA37 test.
That is the starting one I recommend, and if you are descended from a
genealogy that has not yet had anyone take a Y-DNA test, we very much need
males with the Graves/Greaves surname to take this test.
I am also trying to include
more discussion of researching families and the progress being made with
connecting and extending families.
The article about finding ancestry in the U.K. is sort of an example of
that.
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ANNOUNCEMENT
AND SALE FROM FAMILY TREE DNA
Family tree DNA just
announced today (April 22) that National DNA Day, celebrated on April 25,
commemorates the completion of the Human Genome Project and the discovery of
DNA's double helix on April 25, 1953.
Since 1970, the U.S. has observed National Arbor Day, dedicated to the
planting and nurturing of trees, on the last Friday in April.
This year National Arbor Day
falls on National DNA Day, so what better opportunity for Family Tree DNA to
release the long-awaited 2014 Y-DNA Haplotree! In addition to expanding the tree from 400 to 1000 terminal
branches, the Haplotree
page will have an updated, fresh design.
Our engineering team will
begin to push the code that will update the database prior to the official
release of the tree, so you'll see some changes in terminal SNPs and
haplogroups for those who have done additional testing.
To help with the transition,
our Webinar Coordinator, Elise Friedman will host a live webinar on DNA Day for
a demonstration of the new tree and more details about this landmark update on
Friday, April 25, 2014 @ 12pm Central (5pm UTC).
To register, click here.
A recording of this webinar will be posted to the Webinars page of our
Learning Center within 24-48 hours after the live event here.
SALE ON Y-DNA SNPs AND Y-DNA37 TEST
They are also having a DNA
Day sale! Y-DNA SNPs will be 20%
off from April 25 - 29. In
addition, the Y-DNA 37 test will be 20% off the retail price.
The sale officially begins at
12:01AM on April 25 and will end at 11:59pm on April 29.
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FINDING
ANCESTRY OF PEOPLE IN THE U.K. FROM CURRENT NEWS ARTICLES
PETER GREAVES OF KEYWORTH,
NOTTINGHAMSHIRE, ENGLAND
On Jan. 20, 2014, Marion
Gray, a fellow member of the Guild of One-Name Studies (GOONS), sent me a copy
of an article of Jan. 17 in the Nottingham Post about the life and death of
Peter Greaves of Keyworth, England.
I wrote her
that Òa big problem I have is how to find his parents.
My guess is that he was born in the early 1920s, but there are no published
census records for England that recently. Do you have any idea how to find his
parents?Ó She responded: ÒThe best
way to find his parents is to go to the website www.freebmd.org.uk,
put in his name and check the Births in the drop down box - you will find his
mother's maiden name listed (they do this from 1911 onwards). Then get
his parentsÕ marriage quarter/year by putting in either parent, with spouse,
check the Marriages in the drop down box and bingo - and then hopefully you can
then keep your fingers crossed that either parent has a not too common first
name and you can find them on the 1911 census.Ó
According to
their website, ÒFreeBMD is an ongoing project, the aim of which is to transcribe
the Civil Registration index of births, marriages and deaths for England and
Wales, and to provide free Internet access to the transcribed records. It is a
part of the FreeUKGEN family, which also includes FreeCEN (Census data) and FreeREG (Parish Registers). To search the
records that have so far been transcribed by FreeBMD click on the Search button
below. The recording of births,
marriages and deaths was started in 1837 and is one of the most significant
resources for genealogical research. The transcribing of the records is carried
out by teams of dedicated volunteers and contains index information for the
period 1837-1983, but we have not yet transcribed the whole
period.Ó
The article was titled ÒHurricane hero who loved flyingÓ, by Ben
Ireland, and stated: ÒPeter Greaves, of Keyworth, died peacefully on Dec. 31 at
Balmore Country Home in Loughbrough Road, Luddington.Ó ÒEldest son Stephen, 63, said his
father kept the details of his RAF experiences to himself until he wrote his
memoirs in 1997.Ó He grew up in
Essex, and Òhe was too young to fly in the Battle of Britain (in 1940).Ó He left the RAF in 1946. He married Margaret Cross in 1949 and
moved to Farnborough, and then to Keyworth in 1976. ÒMr. Greaves is survived by his wife and six children
– Stephen, Kim, Robert, twins Jacqui and Katie, and Peter, whose ages
range from 40 to 63. There are 13
grandchildren and two great grandchildren.Ó
I first searched FreeBMD for the marriage of Peter
Greaves and Margaret Cross, and it gave a date of September quarter 1949 in
Birkenhead, Merseyside (was Cheshire), just below Liverpool, with K. as his
middle initial. I then searched
for a birth record for Peter Greaves between 1920 and 1925, and found Peter K.
Greaves born in the March quarter 1922 in West Ham, Essex, with Gwinn as his
motherÕs name. Then I searched for
a marriage between a male Greaves and a Gwinn 1900-1925, and found George H.
Greaves married Ethel Gwinn in the Sept. quarter 1912 in West Ham. I searched for a birth for George
Greaves, 1880-1895, and found George Henry Greaves, born Dec. quarter 1885 in
West Ham.
I then checked the 1911 census and found George
Henry Greaves, b.c. 1886, Forest Gate, Essex, living
in West Ham, Essex, son of Henry William Greaves and Annie Eliza ‑‑‑‑‑‑. They were both born about 1861 and
married about 1884, and had 6 children in 1911. Henry was born in Canning Town,
Essex, which is now part of the borough of Newham in London. Checking on the marriage of Henry and
Annie in FreeBMD showed that her name was Annie Eliza Orchard, and they married
Sept. quarter 1883 in West Ham.
The 1871 census for Plaistow, West Ham, Essex, listed Henry (b.c. 1839
in Painswick, Gloucestershire) and Mary A. Greaves, with son Henry W. Greaves
and 3 other children. Henry was in
the 1861 census as a servant in West Ham, and in the 1851 census for Eckington,
Worcestershire, with his parents Edmund Greaves (b.c. 1806) and Harriett (b.c.
1814). Edmund was born in
Pershore, Pensham, Worcestershire, and Harriett and their 3 children were born
in Painswick, Gloucestershire.
I then checked Public Member Trees on Ancestry.com
for Edmund Greaves, and found several submitted genealogies for parts of this
family. Searching on the GFA
website showed that this is genealogy 332 for Thomas Graves and Elizabeth ‑‑‑‑‑‑
of Pensham and Cropthorne, Worcestershire. Edmund Greaves is #27 and his son Henry is #71 in the
genealogy, but no more recent descendants are included.
So this approach does work if you are willing to
work at it and are lucky.
JIMMY GREAVES, ENGLISH FOOTBALL STAR
Another example is my effort
to find the ancestry of the English football (soccer) star Jimmy Greaves (see
information about him on the GFA website here). It is interesting to see that this
family (like the previous one) also lived in East Ham. The information I previously gathered
about him is that his full name is James Peter Greaves, he was born 20 Feb.
1940 in the East End of London, and his father was also Jimmy Greaves.
Searching for the birth of
James Peter Greaves in FreeBMD shows that he was born in the March quarter of
1940 in East Ham, and his mother was ‑‑‑‑‑‑
Mansbridge. A search for the
marriage of James Greaves and Mansbridge between 1930 and 1940 gave James C.
Greaves, married Dec. quarter 1938 in Poplar (in Greater London and Middlesex),
and clicking on the page link showed that her name was Mary E. Mansbridge. A birth search on FreeBMD then gave
James Charles Greaves, born March quarter 1908 in West Ham.
Finding the parents of James
Charles Greaves was not so easy, however.
His motherÕs surname is not available from FreeBMD, since he was born
before 1911. A search of the 1911
census did not show anyone named James Charles Greaves, and it was not obvious
which of those named James Greaves might be the right one. I then searched Public Member Trees on
Ancestry.com and found two genealogies for what appears to be this James
Charles Greaves, but they did not agree with each other on the names of his
parents. One gave Arthur Joseph
Greaves and Susan Jane Lewis (this is genealogy 159, where ArthurÕs parents are
George Greaves and Mary Sophia Reid), and the other gave Ebhorn Greaves and
Emma Goosetree (this is genealogy 400, where EbhornÕs parents are John Greaves
and Elizabeth Burton). In looking
at these genealogies, I saw that I had previously spent some time finding
census records and sorting out the family members. It appears that the James Charles Greaves of genealogy 159
is the father of Jimmy Greaves, and the earliest known ancestors are John
Greaves (born about 1814) and Mary Wood of Middlesex, England. If I had more time and wanted to spend
more money, I might join FindMyPast and be able to find parish records to carry
this and other lines farther back.
WILLIAM GREAVES OF BURNLEY, LANCASHIRE,
ENGLAND
In March I received an
article from The Burnley Express, dated 7 March 2014. It stated: ÒGREAVES, William. Passed
away peacefully on 27th February at Blackburn Royal Hospital, aged 83. Husband
of the late Mona and dearly loved dad and father in law to Bill and Margaret,
Helen and Chris. Also a greatly
adored granddad to Marcus, Mark, Laura and Jason and great granddad to
Emily, Olivia and Parker.Ó
ÒThe funeral cortege will leave from Burnley and District Funeral
Service, Rosegrove Lane prior to a funeral service at Burnley Crematorium at
1.40 pm on Monday 10th February 2014.Ó
So we know that he was 83 by
27 Feb. 2014, and therefore born about 1930 (28 Feb. 1930-27 Feb. 1931), and
probably lived in Burnley, Lancashire, or at least nearby. When I looked at FreeBMD, for a William
Greaves who had married someone named Mona, I found one who married Mona Mellon
in Burnley in the March quarter 1951.
When I then searched for his birth, I found only 6 men named William
Greaves listed for this time period, and only one in Lancashire. The birth was in the June quarter 1930
in Haslingden (only 9 miles from Burnley), and his motherÕs surname was
Parkinson.
I then checked for a marriage
between a male Greaves and a Parkinson in Lancashire between 1900 and 1930, and
found two: Edward Greaves married Mary E. Parkinson in Burnley in the March
quarter 1911, and John W. Greaves married Sarah J. Parkinson in Haslingden in
the June quarter 1914. I wasnÕt
able to identify an Edward Greaves in either the 1901 or 1911 census who might
have been this Edward Greaves. However, I did find a John Greaves in Burnley in
1911. He was born about 1896 in
Lathom, Lancashire, son of Robert Greaves (b.c. 1872 in Manchester, Lancs.) and
Mary ‑‑‑‑‑‑. They were also in the 1901 census for Warrington,
Lancs. There were two people named
Robert Greaves who could have been this one, one living in Runcorn, Cheshire
with his parents, and the other in the Industrial Schools, Worsley, Lancs. Without finding marriage records or
baptismal records showing names of parents, I donÕt know how to go farther. Can anyone help?
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WHAT TO DO
IF YOU DONÕT RECEIVE THIS BULLETIN
If you are subscribed to the
Graves Family Bulletin and donÕt receive this issue, then you might not see
this article. (ItÕs kind of like
asking anyone who isnÕt present to raise his or her hand.) However, if you have had the problem in
the past or might in the future, or if you read this on the GFA website, then
this article may be helpful.
For anyone who is
subscribed and didn't receive the GF Bulletin, it was sent. A few subscribers have problems. There is a slight chance that your
email address Òbounced backÓ as an undeliverable address, and therefore was
automatically removed from the subscription list. To check that your address is still in the subscriber list,
contact Ken Graves by email. Other
than that possibility, first check your junk mail folder, and then check with
your Internet Service Provider (ISP).
Some ISPs such as AOL can be a problem, automatically filtering out
newsletters as spam. Next step
after that is to use a different email address such as gmail from Google that
is more reliable in delivering email like the Bulletin. The final option is to read the
Bulletin on the GFA website here. All issues of the GF Bulletin,
including the most recent one, are available there.
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USING
GEDMATCH FOR AUTOSOMAL DNA TEST RESULTS
I strongly recommend that
everyone (male and female) who has taken an autosomal DNA test from any company
(Family Tree DNA, 23andMe, and Ancestry.com) download the results and then
upload them to GEDmatch. Other
articles have previously discussed the benefits of using GEDmatch to find matches
and analyze DNA test results. This
article discusses another tool to help make using GEDmatch a little easier.
A LIST OF GEDMATCH IDs FOR
GRAVES/GREAVES DESCENDANTS
Ginger Smith asked on our GFA
Facebook page: Is there a list of GEDmatch IDs for Graves
descendants being kept anywhere? There are some people I would like to compare
to but I did not catch their GEDmatch IDs.
This comment has generated a
fair amount of discussion. I find
it worthwhile pursuing because:
(1) It would be helpful to know the Graves/Greaves ancestry
of all those on GEDmatch without each person having to maintain his or her own
list, or trying to figure out ancestry each time we see a match.
(2) If done right, it could be one step in relieving me or
others from the responsibility of creating and maintaining a list.
(3) It is one more way of providing benefits to the
members of our GFA Facebook group.
I responded that there isn't
any such list and I would love to see one created. I asked for input on how it should be created and made
available, and whether there is a potential problem with privacy. Much discussion followed, and several
options were considered and tried.
Shannon Christmas commented:
I typically have shied away from listing GEDmatch kit numbers in a Facebook
file, not because of privacy concerns, but because I have not seen much
utility; entering your own GEDmatch kit number into the site's One-to-Many
feature produces a list of all of your matches. However, collecting kit numbers
in this group could be exceptionally useful if we organize the kit numbers by
GFA genealogy number. Anyone generating this file should recommend that each
participant include their GFA genealogy number if they know it or can locate it
on the GFA website.
HOW SHOULD THIS BE DONE?
For the immediate future, the
consensus seems to be that people who have uploaded their autosomal DNA test
results to GEDmatch should post their GEDmatch numbers on the GFA Facebook page
or email the numbers to Ken Graves.
Then he or someone else will update a table of all the numbers on
Facebook (and/or on the GFA website).
This table has been created and is now in the Files section of the GFA
Facebook page.
The next step might be to add
this data to the spreadsheet of GFA Facebook group members that is already in
the Files section of the Facebook page, although that would probably be more
difficult to find and use.
A NEW GEDMATCH FEATURE TO HELP WITH THIS
Ginger Smith also mentioned:
There is a new feature on GEDmatch called user lookup. You can lookup by
GEDmatch ID, email address, or GEDcom ID.
It will also give you a list of all GEDmatch IDs and kits you have
uploaded, and the names associated.
A LONGER-RANGE OPTION
Perhaps a better option for
this application of entering and tracking GEDmatch numbers, and for the
application previously created to keep track of everyone on the GFA Facebook
page, would be to provide a master database of all information of interest,
with a simple data entry screen, and an option to view the report desired. I donÕt presently know how to do this,
but perhaps someone could do it or tell me how. This could be accessed by clicking on a link at the top of
the Facebook page that would be in a post with explanation. Posts can be pinned to always stay at
the top of the page. It could also
be accessed from the GFA website.
UPLOAD YOUR AUTOSOMAL DNA TEST RESULTS
TO GEDMATCH
If you have taken an
autosomal DNA test with any of the DNA testing companies, download your test
results and upload them to GEDmatch.com.
You will see instructions on how to do this at GEDmatch, once you setup
a free account there.
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YOUR TEST
RESULTS ON 23ANDME
For those of you who have
tested on 23andMe, Roberta Estes has written a helpful blog entry titled ÒWhat
Does Sharing Genomes at 23andMe Mean?Ó
You can read it by clicking here.
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MICKEY ROONEY
WAS DESCENDED FROM GENEALOGY 270.
Legendary American
entertainer Mickey Rooney died April 6 at the age of 93. According to Geni, ÒHe
was born Joseph Yule, Jr. in Brooklyn, New York on September 23, 1920. A performer
since he was a toddler, Rooney made his first stage appearance in his parents'
vaudeville act. He served in the U.S. Army during World War II and was awarded
the Bronze Star Medal for entertaining the troops in combat zones. Although his
career would span nine decades, he never again reached the height of his
success before the war. Until his death, Rooney was one of the last surviving
stars who worked in the silent film era.Ó
Via email from Geni, they
notified me that I was a 7th cousin of Mickey Rooney. I checked into that claim and
discovered that it was correct. He
was descended from John Graves/Greaves of genealogy 270 as follows: (1) John
Graves, b. 1665, (2) John Graves, b. 1685, (3) Thomas Graves, b. by 1724, (4)
Anne Graves, b.c. 1755, m. Richard Wait, (5) James Wait, m. Sarah Sims, (6)
Zachariah Wait, b. 1821, SC, m. Rebecca W. Roberts, (7) Sarah E. Wait, b. 1859,
MS, m. Palestine E. Carter, (8) Nellie W. Carter, b. 1893, MO, m. Joseph Tinian
Yule (or Ewell), (9) Joseph Yule, Jr. (Mickey Rooney).
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A GENETIC
CENSUS OF AMERICA FROM ANCESTRY.COM
An article titled ÒA Genetic Census of AmericaÓ was posted
in the Ancestry.com blog on 4 April 2014.
Starting with the question of where todayÕs Americans come from,
AncestryDNA estimated the genetic ethnicities of over 250,000 U.S. customers as
percentages in 26 regions across the world. These percentages show where a personÕs ancestors may have
lived hundreds or thousands of years ago.
They then created a series of maps of the U.S. to show the distribution
of all these ethnicities in all 50 states of the U.S. The match with American history and our experience is
interesting.
AN INTERESTING SIDE NOTE ABOUT THIS
ARTICLE
The interactive charts for
this article were created with GoogleVis and Google Chart Tools. You can see more about this tool here. If you are a programmer with some spare
time or has a relative or friend who might be interested and able, it would be
interesting to apply this to Graves Family Association applications such as
maps showing where ancestors lived in various time periods, the migration of
ancestors from a specific genealogy, where your Graves/Greaves ancestors lived
versus present residences, etc.
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SOME
STATISTICS ABOUT GENEALOGIES ON THE GFA WEBSITE
Bill Graves of Santa Barbara,
CA, descended from genealogy 208, recently asked whether I could repeat and
update a summary of genealogies that were in the Vol. 11, No. 8, 2009 Graves
Family Bulletin. Here it is. It is apparent that male Graves/Greaves
descendants of many more families still need to be Y-DNA tested. Although I donÕt know the exact number
of genealogies that have been tested, I do know that most genealogies have not
Categories |
2009 |
2014 |
Total number of compiled genealogies |
729 |
787 |
Total that start with males |
642 |
677 |
Total that start with females |
87 |
110 |
Total that are Y-DNA-tested |
128 (17.5% of total) |
More than 128 |
Total tested that donÕt match any other family |
30 (23% of those tested) |
Unknown |
Total that are in a group |
297 (41% of total) |
361 (46% of total) |
Total number of groups |
29 |
29 |
Total groups Y-DNA-tested |
20 |
19 |
Total genealogies autosomal DNA tested |
None |
More than 39 |
Total genealogies in England only |
173 (24% of total) |
210 (27% of total) |
Total genealogies in/from Scotland |
6 (in Scotland only) |
14 |
Total genealogies in/from Ireland |
4 (in Ireland only) |
15 |
Total genealogies for Graves |
556 |
594 |
Total genealogies for Greaves |
101 |
118 |
Total genealogies for Other (Grave, Grieves, etc.) |
72 |
75 |
Total ancestors in Alphabetical Index not compiled as genealogies |
unknown |
84 |
Total genealogies that have Y-DNA charts |
Not available |
190 |
Total genealogies that have autosomal DNA charts |
Not available |
38 |
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PRESERVATION
PLANS FOR GRAVES MILL PROPERTY IN VIRGINIA
For those interested in Virginia
history, and especially for those descended from Capt. Thomas Graves of VA
(genealogy 169), an April 11 article titled ÒOwner
Shares Plans To Preserve Historic Graves Mill PropertyÓ may be of
interest. The article includes a
photo and video.
Ed Graves, the former property owner grew up in
the Rosedale Mansion. The staple
of the property is the Rosedale Mansion built in 1836. Next door is
the Christopher Johnson Cottage, circa 1760, a national and state historic
site. Also, the mill, of
"Graves Mill" sits on the far corner of the property. It dates back to 1772. After Graves's family moved out, he
could no longer maintain the massive property. He sold the aging house, the cottage, and mill. Vickie Runk bought the property from Graves in January. She has big plans for the six
acres. A full-scale wedding and event venue fit for more than 300
people is now in the works. All slated
to be on what is now Lynchburg's living history.
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ANOTHER
INTERESTING BUILDING AND GRAVES FAMILY IN MONTANA
There was an article in the
March 30 issue of the Graves Family Bulletin about ÒThe Graves Hotel and Chris
Graves of Harlowton, MT.Ó Dottie
Mersinger called my attention to a Graves family and their house in Bannack,
Beaverhead Co., MT, when she asked about the identity of Fielding L. Graves and
his house. According to Wikipedia,
Bannack is a ghost town in Beaverhead County, Montana, United States, located
on Grasshopper Creek, approximately 11 miles upstream from where Grasshopper
Creek joins with the Beaverhead River south of Dillon. Bannack is about 242 miles west of
Harlowton, close to the Idaho border.
Many of us are related to
Fielding, although probably not closely. He was Fielding Louis Graves, born 19
July 1833 in Donerail, Fayette Co., KY, m. Sarah Leota Nay, died 27 Dec. 1913
in Bannack, Beaverhead Co., MT, son of George W. C. Graves and Sidney Jane
Dougherty. He is in genealogy 270. I wasn't familiar with the story of
this house, but one reference
on the Internet states: Around 1866, William Roe, who had made his fortune in
Bannack, not in the gold fields, but, rather, in freighting, merchandising, and
banking, built the first frame house in the city. Later, when the Montana
Vigilantes were formed to rid the area of the rampant crime, he was involved
and was one of the men that apprehended Sheriff Henry Plummer and his two
deputies, who were hanged on January 10, 1864. Later, the home became home to
Fielding L. Graves, who implemented the first successful gold dredging
operation in the United States in 1895. The electric dredge successfully
operated along Grasshopper Creek until 1902. The house was owned and occupied
by the Graves family up until it was acquired by the State Park."
If you do a search on
Bannack, MT, you will find many fascinating pictures and stories about
Bannack. According to one photo site:
ÒThe road between Bannack and Virginia City was the scene of more holdups,
robberies and murders than almost any other comparable stagecoach route. The
outlaw gang had for its mastermind the Sheriff of Bannack, Henry Plummer!
Plummer set himself up as a preserver of the peace, guardian of law and order.
He soon became official sheriff, built a jail and had rings put in the floor so
that prisoners could not escape merely by punching a hole in the sod-roof.Ó
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