A Free, Occasional, Online Summary of Items of Interest to Descendants of all Families of Graves, Greaves, Grieves, Grave, and other spelling variations Worldwide


Vol. 2, No. 2, May 1, 1998




Copyright © 1998 by the Graves Family Association and Kenneth V. Graves. All rights reserved.


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**General Comments

**About the Graves Family Association

**About the Graves Family Bulletin

**Graves Family Association Web Site

**New E-Mail Address for Kenneth V. Graves

**Graves Family Newsletter April Issue

**Trip to England and Ireland in May 1999

**Graves Reunion and Exhibit Booth in Denver this May at NGS Conference

**Researching Your Ancestry -- Facts vs. Rumors

**Back Issues of GFNL's Wanted

**Graves Family Web Sites

**To Submit Material to this Bulletin & Other Things






Some of you probably notice that some of the same subjects are covered in more than one of these bulletins. That is sometimes because there are changes and new things happening. But it is also sometimes because I get questions about things that were in previous bulletins. Please be sure to check the GFA web site or previous bulletins before asking questions. (Previous bulletins are all on the web site, in case you don't save them.)


Some of you have contacted me by e-mail or regular mail (snail mail) and have not received a response. I apologize, but it is not physically possible for me to respond to all mail and do the other things I need to for the Graves Family Association (or for the rest of my life). Please do not take a lack of response as a lack of interest. If more of you will volunteer to take on some of the responsibilities listed on the GFA web site, I may be able to respond more promptly.






We are a voluntary, non-profit organization that is interested in the surname of Graves, Greaves, Grave, Grieve, Greve, and all other variations of that name for all time periods, worldwide. The country of origin of your ancestors doesn't matter, as long as you are interested in or descended from Graves/Greaves ancestors.


It is not necessary that you join the Association to be helped by us, but your financial contributions and your working with us to further the programs of the Association will benefit everyone. We believe that by working together as an organization and sharing our results, we can accomplish much more than by working alone. We are gradually building on the foundation of accumulated research, so we don't have to start over for each search. We hope you will join the Association and tell others what we are doing.






Your articles and items of general interest to Graves families and researchers are welcomed. Send anything you think might be appropriate to Ken Graves at


We will not be including queries. Those can be submitted to the Graves Family Newsletter and to the Graves mailing list (mentioned on the GFA web site and highly recommended).






The Association now has its own Internet domain name ( and the web site address (URL) is now At the same time, a lot of the content has been changed and expanded. The new sections include information on reunions, the trip to England and Ireland next year, back issues of this Bulletin, and a list of all known Graves/Greaves ancestors.


The section of Graves/Greaves ancestors and genealogies is constantly being added to. The plan is to have genealogies or some information about every ancestor on the list. As we have time, we will also be adding information about the research project to find the earlier ancestry of all ancestors, especially those who were original immigrants to America. Note also the section on volunteers needed.


Take a look at it, and let us have your comments and suggestions.






Although you will still be able to reach me for a while at my old address of, it is better to use my new address of I will eventually be discontinuing my use of AOL.






The April issue was mailed today. For those GFA members who have not yet renewed for 1998, now is a good time to do it. For those of you who are not members, the start of the new year is an ideal time to join.






In May 1999 (next Spring) the Graves Family Association will be conducting a trip to England and Ireland. This will consist of a combination of expertly guided tours of Graves/Greaves homes and towns, historic places and scenic sights, and visits with local family members. Even if family members are not interested in genealogy, they will still have a marvelous time. (My wife, Sarah, who has almost no interest in genealogy, went in 1995, and enjoyed it very much.)


The tour of England will be the main attraction, since the origin of all the Graves-Greaves families of both Ireland and England is the area of southern Yorkshire and the northern parts of Derbyshire, Lincolnshire and Nottinghamshire. This will be about 10 days, and places we will be visiting will probably include Mickleton in Gloucestershire, Moseley in Worcestershire, various places in Yorkshire, Bakewell & Beeley in Derbyshire, Horbling, Drayton & Kirkton in Lincolnshire, Hertford in Hertfordshire, Nazeing in Essex, and London.


We hope to have noted expert George Redmonds escort us in Yorkshire again. We also hope to have two evenings where family members from the local area gather with us.


The tour of Ireland will be an option. It will be several days, and will include Waterford, Wexford, Dublin and Meath, and possibly Limerick. It will also probably include Tyrone and Londonderry in Northern Ireland. Safety (as well as enjoyment) will be an important consideration, and no area that is felt to pose any safety problems will be included.


More information will be provided within the next several months. Exact cost has not yet been established, but it was $2375 per person double occupancy plus airfare for the 1995 trip to England, and that part of the trip will probably be similar in cost in 1999.

To give us a good idea of who is seriously considering going, we need your tentative commitment and a $50 per person deposit as soon as possible. If the trip is cancelled by us for any reason, your deposit will be returned in full.


Because we do not yet have the minimum number for the tour, the deadline (originally April 30) is being extended. If we do not have enough indication of interest by late May, the tour will either be changed or cancelled. Let us know if you are interested. (Would you be more interested in a tour that was not quite as professionally done but was less expensive?)


All checks should be payable to the Graves Family Association, and mailed to 261 South St., Wrentham, MA 02093. You should also indicate whether you are interested in the full tour, only the portion in England, or only the portion in Ireland.






The National Genealogical Society Conference will be in Denver, CO, Wednesday, May 6-Saturday, May 9, 1998. The exhibit hall will be in the Colorado Convention Center in Denver, and will be open every day to anyone, not just Conference attendees. This conference is an excellent opportunity to attend workshops, hear lectures by experts on a wide variety of genealogical topics, and see the products of many vendors. There is no charge for the reunion (other than any food you order) and no charge to visit the exhibit area (as far as I know). If you want to attend a single day of the Conference, you can register (and pay) to do that also.


The Graves Family Association will have a reunion at the Conference on Thursday evening, May 7. The room will be posted at the GFA booth and elsewhere on signs at the Conference. We will be starting the official meeting at 7:30 p.m., but may be starting to meet as early as 6:00 p.m., and may be ordering casual food such as pizza for dinner together. We will also have a booth in the exhibit hall. Come to the booth to visit and to help staff the booth so some of us can have a break. Both of these are opportunities for you to visit, exchange family information, and get more involved with the Association and your own family research. Come and bring your friends and relatives, and your family information. I will be at both the reunion and the booth.






Personal computers are absolutely marvelous. And the communication revolution that the Internet has made possible has allowed us to find so much more information than we could ever have found in the old days. However, there is an old saying, one version of which is "Garbage in, garbage out." The value of the information you have is only as good as the sources from which you got that information.


We are seeing a proliferation of computerized genealogical information, much of it on the Internet, but some in submitted, unverified files such as the LDS Ancestral File and Broderbund's World Family Tree, that is of uncertain accuracy. Much of it is correct, but much of it is misleading or completely wrong. The problem is, we can't tell what is correct and what is wrong because there are usually no sources cited to allow verification. Do not accept that genealogical information is correct just because it is available in computerized form!! Use such information as guides and starting points only, and look for proof.


An example that keeps on being asked about is the ancestry of Capt. Thomas Graves, the 1608 settler in Jamestown, VA. His ancestry is given in some submitted LDS records as son of Thomas Graves and Joan Blagrove, with Joan shown as daughter of T. Blagrove and Joan Bellame, etc. The family is shown as from Lambourn (misspelled as Lamborne), Berkshire, England. I and other researchers have searched diligently to try to substantiate this, but have never been able to show that there is any evidence to support it. It is unsubstantiated rumor, yet it keeps being repeated and presented as fact. The fact is that we do not know the parentage and earlier ancestry of Capt. Thomas Graves, but we have hired researchers to help us find it. We do believe that Capt. Thomas Graves lived in Dublin, Ireland immediately before arriving in Virginia, and that his family was originally from Yorkshire, England.






Charles Severs would like to buy a set of back issue of the Graves Family Newsletters. He is at Although all back issues are available from the Graves Family Association at the current membership price for each year of issues, he would like to get them less expensively.






If you have a web site (home page) or know of one that contains information of Graves family members or descendants, let us know and we will mention it in this space. There wasn't time to summarize the new ones in this issue of the Bulletin, but they will be in the next issue.





This bulletin is written and edited by Kenneth V. Graves, Ken Graves is also editor of the Graves Family Newsletter, the official publication of the Graves Family Association. This bulletin will contain announcements and news of special interest to Graves descendants with Internet access. It will not contain queries, genealogies, photos, and the kind of in-depth articles that appear in the Graves Family Newsletter.



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If you do not already belong to the GFA, you can join by sending $20 per year to Graves Family Association, 261 South St., Wrentham, MA 02093. Note that membership is for a calendar year so if you join late in the year be sure to specify which year dues are for. Benefits include 6 issues of the newsletter, membership directory, and help with learning more about your Graves/Greaves family. The purpose of the GFA is to bring together as many descendants as possible to work toward learning more about the Graves/Greaves families, to help other descendants, and to instill pride in our ancestry.



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