A Free, Occasional, Online Summary of Items of Interest to Descendants of all Families of Graves, Greaves, Grieves, Grave, and other spelling variations Worldwide


Vol. 7, No. 12, Dec. 23, 2005




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** General Comments

** Graves/Greaves Families Not Yet Tested Need to Take Part in the DNA Study

** Francis Graves of Gloucester Co. & Essex Co., VA, and the Need for DNA Test Participants

** Graves Family Books

** A Home for the Graves Family Bible Mentioned Last Issue

** To Submit Material to this Bulletin & Other Things






I hadn’t planned to send this bulletin until next week.  After all, tomorrow is Christmas Eve.  But then I received a reminder of the special offer discussed in the next article for DNA testing.  Since DNA testing is so important to our success at connecting all the various Graves and Greaves families, and this offer expires Dec. 31, I thought we shouldn’t miss this opportunity.


In the next bulletin, I will discuss the plans for the 2007 reunion in Williamsburg, VA, and also the gatherings I would like to have in the southeastern U.S. and Florida in February and March.  My wife, Sarah, and I will be driving from Massachusetts to Florida in early February, staying in Bradenton, Florida for 5 weeks, and then driving home in mid-March.  If you would like to help gather people for a get-together within a couple of hours of I-95 (preferably on our way down), or in Florida, or help select a place for a gathering, please let me know.


Sincere wishes for the best Christmas and the happiest of holidays!






For people descended from families or parts of families that do not yet have a DNA study participant, we still need Graves/Greaves men to take the test.  This study has been extremely successful, and for many families is probably the only way ancestry or a connection with other families will ever be found.


If you have been thinking about participating in the Graves/Greaves DNA study, now is the time.  From now through the end of this year, our testing laboratory, Family Tree DNA is giving a special discount, as described below.


Holiday Gift Certificates from Family Tree DNA

Family Tree DNA is offering Gift Certificates to be used by individuals that want to get tested. Gift Certificates are for $30 and are available for participants who order a new test kit for a Y DNA test for 25 or 37 markers. A $15.00 Gift Certificate is available to participants who order a new test kit for an mtDNA test.

To claim your Gift Certificate from Family Tree DNA, click on the links below:

For a $30.00 Y DNA Gift Certificate:

For a $15.00 mtDNA Gift Certificate:

Then order your test kit through the Graves/Greaves surname project.


Then place your order as a member of the Surname Project.


These Gift Certificates can be used to order a Y DNA test for 25 or 37 markers, or an mtDNA test. Gift Certificates are not valid for Y DNA 12 marker orders, upgrades, or add-ons.

The Gift Certificates expire on December 31, 2005. The test kits must be ordered and paid by December 31, 2005.

Take advantage of this opportunity, and claim a Gift Certificate. The Gift Certificates can be used to order the test you have been thinking of taking, to buy a gift for that needed participant, or to give a gift of discovery this Holiday Season.

To redeem your Gift Certificate:

* When paying by credit card, after you place your order, contact and provide the kit number, and a refund of the value of the Gift Certificate will be posted to the credit card used in the purchase.

* When paying by the invoice method, after you place your order, contact and provide the kit number. We must receive your payment by December 31, 2005, or the Gift Certificate will expire.



To sign up, go to the GFA website at, click on the DNA link at the top of the main page, then click on the link in the red-outlined box near the top of the next page.  This will take you to a page on the Family Tree DNA page.  Then just fill out the requested information, and your testing kit will be mailed to you the next day.  The 25-marker test is recommended, and the 37-marker test is even better (for most participants).






Francis Graves was previously believed to be the youngest son of Capt. Thomas Graves.  As discussed in the Capt. Thomas Graves genealogy (genealogy 169), in this bulletin, and elsewhere, it is now apparent that Francis was a son of someone else.  The most conclusive proof of that is the DNA test results for descendants of Francis that show he shares a common ancestor with Rear Admiral Thomas Graves of Charlestown, MA (genealogy 28), and other families in that ancestral group.  As a result of that, Francis and his descendants have been removed from genealogy 169 and genealogy 220 has been created for this part of the family.


However, in order to more fully define the DNA haplotype of Francis Graves, we need to test descendants of other lines from Francis.  This will have the additional benefit of laying to rest any lingering doubts about the correctness of the ancestry of Francis.  We need the help of descendants and others in getting additional DNA study participants.  To see which lines have been tested so far, look at the chart for genealogy 220 at


We presently only have tests of descendants from one branch of the line from Francis Graves, from his son, Francis, born 1679.  At the very least, we need at least one participant from the line of Francis1, Francis2, William3, Peyton4.  We also need at least a couple of participants from the line of Francis1, Thomas2.  If you need information to help you track down descendants, let me know.






All previously published books are still available for purchase.  More description and ordering information is on the GFA website.  The seven books published so far (with publication dates in parentheses) are:

** Robert Graves of NC & SC (a branch from Capt. Thomas Graves) (1980)

** Samuel Graves of Lynn, MA (1985)

** Thomas Graves of Hartford, CT & Hatfield, MA (1985)

** Rear Adm. Thomas Graves of Charlestown, MA (1994)

** Graves Families of the World (1994)

** Deacon George Graves of Hartford, CT (1995)

** John Graves of Concord, MA (2002)


The book on the Graves families of Randolph Co., NC is not yet ready, but I will notify everyone as soon as I have a definite date for publication.






In the last issue of this Bulletin, I wrote that Sally Mohle of Fairfax, VA had a Graves family Bible from the family of Francis Edward Graves of Wolftown, Madison Co., VA, that she wanted to give away.  The response was amazing.  The Bible has now been transferred to Douglas M. Graves who lives in Graves Mill, Madison Co., VA.  Thanks to all the other people who responded and said they were interested.


Doug is trying to track down descendants of Asa Walker Graves (father of Francis Edward Graves) to participate in the DNA study.  We would like to get a descendant of Francis Edward Graves, one from his brother Thomas Sidnor Graves, and a second sample from his brother Asa Wesley Graves (to confirm the one sample we already have from that line).  If anyone can help find male descendants of these lines with the Graves surname to take part, that would be very helpful.  This is one of the lines descended from Capt. Thomas Graves of VA (genealogy 169).





This bulletin is written and edited by Kenneth V. Graves,  Ken Graves was also editor of the Graves Family Newsletter (no longer published).  This bulletin will contain announcements and news of special interest to Graves descendants with Internet access.  It will not contain queries, genealogies, photos, and the kind of in-depth articles that used to appear in the Graves Family Newsletter.



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