GRAVES
FAMILY BULLETIN
A
Free, Occasional, Online Summary of Items of Interest to Descendants of all
Families of Graves, Greaves, Grieves, Grave, and other spelling variations
Worldwide
Vol.
7, No. 13, Dec. 29, 2005
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© 2005 by the Graves Family Association and Kenneth V. Graves. All rights reserved.
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CONTENTS:
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Graves Gatherings in the Southeastern U.S. in Early 2006
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Reminder of New Yahoo Group to Discuss Graves Family Association Issues
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Last Chance to Get a Discount on a Graves/Greaves DNA Test
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More on Francis Graves of Gloucester Co. & Essex Co., VA, and His
Descendants
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To Submit Material to this Bulletin & Other Things
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GRAVES
GATHERINGS IN THE SOUTHEASTERN U.S. IN EARLY 2006
I would also like to organize a gathering in
Florida while we are there, perhaps in a private room at a restaurant. Can
anyone help find a place for that and help organize it?
These gatherings will be a good opportunity
to share family information, learn more about your Graves/Greaves ancestry,
learn about the DNA study and even take a DNA test, and ask me questions.
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REMINDER
OF NEW YAHOO GROUP TO DISCUSS GRAVES FAMILY ASSOCIATION ISSUES
This
is a reminder that a new Yahoo group has been started for discussion of all
Graves Family Association activities, including promoting and publicizing the
Association, increasing membership and interest, traditional research, the
Graves/Greaves/Grieve DNA study, publications, the website, trips, reunions,
and any other programs of the Graves Family Association. We are looking for
your thoughts on what we should be doing, how it can be done, who will do it,
etc. To join the group and participate in the discussion, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gravesfamilyassociation/
and follow the instructions to join.
This
group is not for queries about finding specific Graves/Greaves ancestors, since
that is covered by other mailing lists, bulletin boards, etc.
We
need your help and input to be successful and to do what you want to have
happen. Join the discussion group and
give us your opinions!
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LAST
CHANCE TO GET A DISCOUNT ON A GRAVES/GREAVES DNA TEST
You can still get a $30 discount on a new
25-marker or 37-marker Y-DNA test, or a $15 discount on a new mitochondrial DNA
(mtDNA) test, if you order and pay for it by Dec. 31.
For
people descended from families or parts of families that do not yet have a DNA
study participant, we especially need Graves/Greaves men to take the test. The test is easy and painless, just
involving rubbing the inside of your mouth with a plastic applicator. The only requirement is that the person
taking the Y-DNA test must be a male with the Graves or Greaves surname, since
the Y chromosome is only passed on from father to son.
To
sign up, go to the GFA website at www.gravesfa.org,
click on the DNA link at the top of the main page, then click on the link in
the red-outlined box near the top of the next page. This will take you to a page on the Family Tree DNA page. Then just fill out the requested
information, and your testing kit will be mailed to you the next day. The 37-marker Y-DNA test is preferred for
most participants.
When
paying by credit card, after you place your order, contact
Juliew@familytreeDNA.com and provide the kit number, and a refund of the value
of the Gift Certificate will be posted to the credit card used in the purchase.
When
paying by the invoice method, after you place your order, contact
Juliew@familytreeDNA.com and provide the kit number. We must receive your
payment by December 31, 2005, or the Gift Certificate will expire.
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MORE
ON FRANCIS GRAVES OF GLOUCESTER CO. & ESSEX CO., VA, AND HIS DESCENDANTS
As
mentioned in the last issue of this bulletin, Francis Graves was previously
believed to be the youngest son of Capt. Thomas Graves. It is now apparent that Francis was a son of
someone else, and genealogy 220 has been created for this family. It was mentioned that you can see which
lines have been tested so far by looking at the chart for genealogy 220 at https://gravesfa.org/chart220.pdf. In order to more fully define the DNA
haplotype of Francis Graves and to help find his ancestry, we need to test
descendants of other lines from Francis.
You
can also see the possible relationship between genealogy 220 and other families
that share a common ancestor on the chart at https://gravesfa.org/DNAchart228-connections.pdf. It is believed that most of the Graves
families in the southern U.S. that share a common ancestry with Francis Graves
were descended from him. Among the
exceptions to that are some of the descendants of John Greaves of St. Mary’s
Co., MD (genealogy 247) that moved to KY, and the family of John Graves and
Margery Harvey of Randolph Co., NC (genealogy 77) that is probably descended
from John Graves of Concord, MA (genealogy 166), based on family legend.
As
you can see on the chart mentioned above, the families believed to descend from
Francis include Thomas Sims Graves (gen. 94), Thomas Graves of Lunenburg Co.
& Mecklenburg Co., VA (gen. 152), Thomas Graves of Culpeper Co., VA (gen.
177), James Graves and Mary Copeland of VA & GA (gen. 150), Peter Graves of
Surry Co., NC (gen. 11), James Graves of Randolph Co. & Surry Co., NC (gen.
262), Leonard Graves of Culpeper Co., VA (gen.836), and William Graves of
Gloucester Co., VA (gen. 889). It can
be seen that some of these families have roots in Gloucester Co., VA, many
lived in Culpeper Co., VA, and many later lived in Randolph Co., NC. Many of the Randolph Co. families later
moved to Blount Co., AL, and to Indiana.
Although additional DNA analysis will help connect some of these
families, additional traditional research is the key to establishing and
proving the exact connections. Your
help is needed.
One
branch of the family that is still confused and incorrect is that in genealogy
169 (Capt. Thomas Graves of VA), from William Graves who married Sarah
Fisher. His line in that genealogy is
Thomas1, John2, Thomas3, John4,
John5, Thomas6, William7 m. Sarah Fisher. It can be seen on the charts for genealogy
169 that the DNA test for a descendant of Uriah Noah Graves (a son of William)
matches that for the descendants of Francis Graves and also matches that for
descendants of Thomas Sims Graves (genealogy 94), who was previously thought to
be a son of this William Graves. It
appears that Uriah Noah Graves is probably a brother of Thomas Sims Graves, and
both are sons of a William Graves. The
birth date of William Graves has been given as about 1755 by some researchers
and about 1776 by others, and he has been listed with different wives and
different children. The most likely
answer to this confusion is that there are two different men named William
Graves. We need to separate the two
families and perform DNA testing on any lines that are still questionable. Again, your help will be needed.
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ABOUT
THIS BULLETIN:
This
bulletin is written and edited by Kenneth V. Graves,
ken.graves@gravesfa.org. Ken Graves was
also editor of the Graves Family Newsletter (no longer published). This bulletin will contain announcements and
news of special interest to Graves descendants with Internet access. It will not contain queries, genealogies,
photos, and the kind of in-depth articles that used to appear in the Graves
Family Newsletter.
TO
SUBMIT MATERIAL TO THIS BULLETIN:
Send
any material you would like to have included in this bulletin to
ken.graves@gravesfa.org. The editor
reserves the right to accept, edit or reject any material submitted.
TO
JOIN THE GRAVES FAMILY ASSOCIATION:
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you do not already belong to the GFA, you can join by sending $20 per year to
Graves Family Association, 20 Binney Circle, Wrentham, MA 02093 (more details
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and sending payment to gfa@gravesfa.org.
Benefits include access to the “members only” section of the website,
membership directory, and help with learning more about your Graves/Greaves
family. The purpose of the GFA is to
bring together as many descendants as possible to work toward learning more about
the Graves/Greaves families, to help other descendants, and to instill pride in
our ancestry.
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